Good Bob, I drink a glass a day of v8

Thanks, Billy The Kid. I know you have also been having health problems in recent months, and I appreciate your acknowledgement. I bought a quart of V-8 juice in the supermarket today, and I thought about you, ha-ha.

Hang in there Bob.

[replying to DenisV's remarks] Now is the time to get real about what medication can do and what it cannot. I have no familiarity with Cymbalta for fibro. The strongest stuff I sometimes take is aspirin.

A shrink tried to addict me to Xoloft about ten years ago during my last episode of depression, and I was over it before the drug began to have any relevance -- and now we discover that Xoloft has little or no effect on patients, it's a placebo. At $6 dollars a pop.


One drug that really floored me, however, was Xanax. A friend who will be 80 in a couple of months has been on Xanax for fifteen years, because of panic attacks which used to send him to the hospital.

On a previous meltdown I had, he gave me a couple quarter tabs of Xanax, a fraction of his daily dose, and I was almost on the floor. It was like a cocaine hit; I was never so relaxed in my life. That stuff really works, but how someone can function under it is beyond my ken.

It scares the daylights out of me -- a legal narcotic!

I think we just need to trust in God and face up to life's adversities, rather than depend on mood-altering drugs. I'm undergoing right now one of the worst episodes in my life, but I know I'll get through it. Maybe lose my house, but I will survive.

Cymbalta + Yahoo = poison on both fronts for Ysabellabrave.

Let's just try to stay positive. It's a bumpy ride, but eventually this aircraft is going to land. Somewhere.

Matt 6:25-34

25 Therefore I tell you, stop being perpetually uneasy (anxious and worried) about your life, what you shall eat or what you shall drink; or about your body, what you shall put on. Is not life greater [in quality] than food, and the body [far above and more excellent] than clothing?
26 Look at the birds of the air; they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father keeps feeding them. Are you not worth much more than they?
27 And who of you by worrying and being anxious can add one unit of measure (cubit) to his stature or to the span of his life? [Ps 39:5-7.]
28 And why should you be anxious about clothes? Consider the lilies of the field and learn thoroughly how they grow; they neither toil nor spin.
29 Yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his magnificence (excellence, dignity, and grace) was not arrayed like one of these. [1 Kings 10:4-7.]
30 But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and green and tomorrow is tossed into the furnace, will He not much more surely clothe you, O you of little faith?
31 Therefore do not worry and be anxious, saying, What are we going to have to eat? or, What are we going to have to drink? or, What are we going to have to wear?
32 For the Gentiles (heathen) wish for and crave and diligently seek all these things, and your heavenly Father knows well that you need them all.
33 But seek ( aim at and strive after) first of all His kingdom and His righteousness ( His way of doing and being right), and then all these things taken together will be given you besides.
34 So do not worry or be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will have worries and anxieties of its own. Sufficient for each day is its own trouble.

Luke 6:46-49

46 Why do you call Me, Lord, Lord, and do not [practice] what I tell you?

47 For everyone who comes to Me and listens to My words [in order to heed their teaching] and does them, I will show you what he is like:

48 He is like a man building a house, who dug and went down deep and laid a foundation upon the rock; and when a flood arose, the torrent broke against that house and could not shake or move it, because it had been securely built or founded on a rock.

49 But he who merely hears and does not practice doing My words is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation, against which the torrent burst, and immediately it collapsed and fell, and the breaking and ruin of that house was great.

We must all remember something. Everything in the Universe is essentially made up of the periodic table, and yes that includes us; everything that’s in there is inside each of us just in slightly different quantities. We even have minute amounts of Arsenic in us, just not enough to do anything bad. That means anything we put into our bodies, food, drug, etc, will react or combine to something else already there inside. The pharmaceutical industry tries to put parts of that table together to cure problems and help us get the proper balance back to our own personal table, well it used to be about that anyway. Unfortunately the art of medicine “a ritual practice or sacred object believed, especially by Native North Americans, to control supernatural powers or to work as a preventive or remedy of illness” has now been over shadowed by shall we say “other goals.” So… it is of the utmost importance that we ALL keep an eye on what we put or let others put in us. It is “our” responsibility to keep this wonderful Godly gift of ours, our bodies, balanced in every way. Something I’m finally starting to realize myself. All work and no play is not healthy either it turns out! So… Matthew 6:25-34, don’t stress out for nothing and Luke 6:46-49 and be balanced in life.

I had no idea that this particular drug had endangered your live, that's outrageous!

I was lucky I didn't die, no exaggeration.

First let's not forget that a lot of these pharmaceutical drugs treat, cure or even prevent a lot of the diseases out there. The highly expensive research to constantly develop new and even better medicines (in which we all benefit) need a lot of funding. The main part of the research money and the research itself gets provided by the pharmaceutical industry and can only be done if they make a sustainable amount of profit. That of course doesn't mean these companies can violate all business ethics in the process of doing so.
Second we should also be thankful that we have access to all of these medicines since there are a lot of people in many parts of the world who are totally deprived from any sort of real health care or professional medication.
Finally let's all hope and pray that they soon do find a effective treatment or cure for fibromyalgia.

You are so right Bill.

Yahoo apparently have a site where one can put questions, so i searched with the words "cymbalta" and "fibromyalgia" and got a long list(86 items?) of questions and answers on the subject.


URL:
http://answers.yahoo.com/search/search_result;_ylt=Anima.eHcis9mUXxBxioRn8jzKIX;_ylv=3?p=cymbalta+fibromyalgia&t=n-1366928377_q-TtlCe%2FFusyWSXleeTyM10AAAAA%40%40&scope=&mc=&asktime=&sc=&cp=1&tp=9&tnu=86


It appears to be a place where all kind of questions can be put (and hopefully answered) by Yahoo users.

- I could not find the Cyabalta adds in conection with yahoo mail, but anyway prescription drugs should not be advertised for.

- Yesterday it was on the main TV channel in Denmark (DR1) that Clymbalta is about 20 times more expensive than the cheapest anti-depression drug, and that it is more prescribed only because of intense advertising to doctors.

- It is incomprehensible that a anti-depression drug with depression as a possible side effect is even allowed, not to mention all the other possible side effects.

- Here follows a link that is a google-machine translation that dont take into account that 1$ = 5.5 kroner so the prices are about 20% of the mentioned.

http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=da&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dr.dk%2FNyheder%2FIndland%2F2009%2F06%2F15%2F183239.htm&sl=da&tl=en&history_state0=&swap=1

I must DITTO this Nashville2Cats and Clamchucker.  Everything you stated is so very true, and has been going on longer than I care to remember.  Thanks so much to both of you for bringing it to the awareness of all who read this.  The love of money is such an Evil, and causes the human spirit to greedily do others such harm and death for the disillusioned reality of what true wealth is all about.  A very wise lady just said to me last Thursday about this same subject,” Those pharmacy guys are gonna have Someone to answer to, and their lined pockets won't help them, that's for sure!” 

1 Timothy 6:10

For the love of money is a root of all evils; it is through this craving that some have been led astray and have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves through with many acute [mental] pangs. 

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Greetings:

Advertising prescription drugs to the public is downright unethical in this spring chicken’s opinion. The layman is in no position to understand which drugs should be prescribed for a given illness. Information regarding prescription drugs is currently available and should remain available to the public at all times. My objection is the advertising.

It is akin to fast food companies targeting children in their advertising. They manipulate children into brow-beating parents to drag them to these restaurants and experience the “magical land," or purchase the toy incentive (the second largest distributor of toys in the US is a fast food chain). Children are no experts on nutrition. The fast food companies rely on them to make the nutritional decision for the family in this case.

Likewise, drug companies manipulate patients into brow-beating their doctors to prescribe the advertised drugs. A doctor who treats himself has a fool for a patient. A patient who treats himself has an idiot for a patient. Patients are not qualified to make technical medical decisions, especially based on advertising. “It was on television. It MUST be true.”

After reading this post by our honorable family member Nashville2Cats, I spent a good portion of the afternoon researching Cymbalta. After reading the myriad of precautions and nasty side effects, I have determined Ysabella Brave might have been better off drinking gasoline, then a lit match. Many of the drug's side effects are identical to those caused by fibromyalgia. Weaning yourself off the drug can be just as bad or worse. What are these guys thinking? Oh, I forgot . . . corporate profit and loss statements.

I have noticed Cymbalta television advertisements have stopped mentioning fibromyalgia and now focus on the original purpose for the drug — anti-depression. I doubt this is for humanitarian reasons. More likely it is because only three per cent of the general population suffers from fibromyalgia, while nine and one half per cent suffers from depression. You have to know your market, and you have to earn top dollar to justify those expensive television advertisements.

Your pal,

Clamchucker